Just seen a new lottery betting agency pop up on facebook I havent seen before” Lotto go .com”
Looks suspicously like another lottery betting
agency.
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Bradley
Thank you PAT. E for bringing that up, I was just going to e-mail Mark about that. If anyone does use LottoGo, I hope they read the Terms and Conditions which state:
“Publicity. You hereby agree to receive any Winnings over 85000 AUD in a winnings ceremony which will be open to the media of our choice. You may choose to remain anonymous at the ceremony. You hereby agree to Annexio publicising and promoting details of your Winnings, your geographical location, age and work status (including the nature of your work and job title). If you choose to remain anonymous we will pixelate your features such that you cannot be identified from any images that we use.”
If you’re concerned about your privacy and don’t want photos to be taken of you or to have a winnings ceremony, that’s just another reason not to use these fake lotteries!
What is frustrating with Lottogo is that it can start up. While I am no lawyer or legislator, I would have thought that then legislation banning this type of betting product from 2019 also banned start ups from the date of proclamation of the legislation.
FYI. Lottogo uses a font that is somewhat similar t9o Lotterywest in WA.
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Jonathan Wilson
I think its disgusting that the LNP gave these companies even 6 months to stay in business.
I agree and I believe most would, that the law should be immediate however legislation like this, I believe. has to take Due Process as to minimise or rearrange any legal contacts that are current..LottoLand are just taking advantage of the time lag -the reality is that they are finished and the public know this.
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Lance
Graeme, most of the public are provbably not aware or interestested in the goings-on with this at thiis point, but you can bet L**toland are showing a bit of interest :-0
While I am no lawyer or legislator, I would have thought that then legislation banning this type of betting product from 2019 should have banned start ups from the date of proclamation of the legislation.
I was only talking LottoLand they have contracts and sponsorhips such as ARL Manly team in Sydney.
Uniforms and advertising need to be removed etc as well as reasonable time to cancel pre booked sponsorship attendances at funcuntions and the like.
Don’t know about start ups,Who will bother now or persist when they see LL,s fate? Have to be nuts.
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Bradley
It’s interesting that some of you think that Lottoland will be leaving Australia. Believe me, they aren’t going anywhere. They have 700,000 customers in Australia, a bet on the US Powerball jackpot costs $5 per line, they aim at problem gamblers since they have several lotteries you can bet on every day and they encourage problem gamblers to spend more by having specials (e.g. 30% of all bets on the US Powerball). Imagine how much money they’re making every week from Australians then you’ll understand why they aren’t going anywhere.
You might be wondering though, how will Lottoland get around this ban? Simple – instead of betting on the outcome of domestic lotteries or the outcome of international lotteries, they’ll probably get their customers to bet on the numbers that a random number generator picks. There’s nothing in the legislation stopping Lottoland from doing that, there’s nothing in the legislation stopping online gambling. This is why we need to now start fighting for a ban on all online gambling if we really want to help our newsagents.
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Bradley
Also, I want to remind you all that this legislation was supported by both major parties so please don’t just blame the Coalition. In fact, the only person who didn’t support it was Senator David Leyonhjelm so if you want to blame someone, blame everyone but him.
Thanks Bradley,
it’s very interesting what you say. so we have got over one hurdle in a very big race where there are many. I agree that on line gambling in total has to go especially when restrictions are set i.e. age barriers for entry and other illegal transactions that cannot be policed.
Once online is banned (if) then all we have to do is compete with other retailers of gaming products. Great challenge. It also stops the provider competing with their agent.
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Bradley
I was replying to Jonathan Wilson when he said, “I think it’s disgusting that the LNP gave these companies even 6 months to stay in business.” I agree with you Mark, all legislators should have done a better job. Of course LottoGo is going to stay in Australia for 6 months if they can make some money from it.
jason, you have missed my comment #7: I would have thought that then legislation banning this type of betting product from 2019 should have banned start ups from the date of proclamation of the legislation.
Sorry Bradley I missed that. Thinking about it, Jonathan must be thinking of the NT government. I’d comment successful governments there have permitted this type of licence.
Yesterday’s game NRL Manly v Roosters Lottoland signwriting was all over Manly’s home ground Brookval oval Hope one didn’t back Manly they were thrashed.
Just seen a new lottery betting agency pop up on facebook I havent seen before” Lotto go .com”
Looks suspicously like another lottery betting
agency.
Thank you PAT. E for bringing that up, I was just going to e-mail Mark about that. If anyone does use LottoGo, I hope they read the Terms and Conditions which state:
“Publicity. You hereby agree to receive any Winnings over 85000 AUD in a winnings ceremony which will be open to the media of our choice. You may choose to remain anonymous at the ceremony. You hereby agree to Annexio publicising and promoting details of your Winnings, your geographical location, age and work status (including the nature of your work and job title). If you choose to remain anonymous we will pixelate your features such that you cannot be identified from any images that we use.”
If you’re concerned about your privacy and don’t want photos to be taken of you or to have a winnings ceremony, that’s just another reason not to use these fake lotteries!
What is frustrating with Lottogo is that it can start up. While I am no lawyer or legislator, I would have thought that then legislation banning this type of betting product from 2019 also banned start ups from the date of proclamation of the legislation.
FYI. Lottogo uses a font that is somewhat similar t9o Lotterywest in WA.
I think its disgusting that the LNP gave these companies even 6 months to stay in business.
I agree and I believe most would, that the law should be immediate however legislation like this, I believe. has to take Due Process as to minimise or rearrange any legal contacts that are current..LottoLand are just taking advantage of the time lag -the reality is that they are finished and the public know this.
Graeme, most of the public are provbably not aware or interestested in the goings-on with this at thiis point, but you can bet L**toland are showing a bit of interest :-0
While I am no lawyer or legislator, I would have thought that then legislation banning this type of betting product from 2019 should have banned start ups from the date of proclamation of the legislation.
I was only talking LottoLand they have contracts and sponsorhips such as ARL Manly team in Sydney.
Uniforms and advertising need to be removed etc as well as reasonable time to cancel pre booked sponsorship attendances at funcuntions and the like.
Don’t know about start ups,Who will bother now or persist when they see LL,s fate? Have to be nuts.
It’s interesting that some of you think that Lottoland will be leaving Australia. Believe me, they aren’t going anywhere. They have 700,000 customers in Australia, a bet on the US Powerball jackpot costs $5 per line, they aim at problem gamblers since they have several lotteries you can bet on every day and they encourage problem gamblers to spend more by having specials (e.g. 30% of all bets on the US Powerball). Imagine how much money they’re making every week from Australians then you’ll understand why they aren’t going anywhere.
You might be wondering though, how will Lottoland get around this ban? Simple – instead of betting on the outcome of domestic lotteries or the outcome of international lotteries, they’ll probably get their customers to bet on the numbers that a random number generator picks. There’s nothing in the legislation stopping Lottoland from doing that, there’s nothing in the legislation stopping online gambling. This is why we need to now start fighting for a ban on all online gambling if we really want to help our newsagents.
Also, I want to remind you all that this legislation was supported by both major parties so please don’t just blame the Coalition. In fact, the only person who didn’t support it was Senator David Leyonhjelm so if you want to blame someone, blame everyone but him.
I don’t recall anyone blaming one side or the other. Legislators should have done a better job.
Thanks Bradley,
it’s very interesting what you say. so we have got over one hurdle in a very big race where there are many. I agree that on line gambling in total has to go especially when restrictions are set i.e. age barriers for entry and other illegal transactions that cannot be policed.
Once online is banned (if) then all we have to do is compete with other retailers of gaming products. Great challenge. It also stops the provider competing with their agent.
I was replying to Jonathan Wilson when he said, “I think it’s disgusting that the LNP gave these companies even 6 months to stay in business.” I agree with you Mark, all legislators should have done a better job. Of course LottoGo is going to stay in Australia for 6 months if they can make some money from it.
jason, you have missed my comment #7: I would have thought that then legislation banning this type of betting product from 2019 should have banned start ups from the date of proclamation of the legislation.
Sorry Bradley I missed that. Thinking about it, Jonathan must be thinking of the NT government. I’d comment successful governments there have permitted this type of licence.
Yesterday’s game NRL Manly v Roosters Lottoland signwriting was all over Manly’s home ground Brookval oval Hope one didn’t back Manly they were thrashed.